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“BAM. This is one powerhouse cigar (Joya de Nicaragua Antano 1970). Very strong and flavorful, this is one of the best cigars I've ever had - bar none. Cigar Aficionado says it's one of the year's 50 best. Well, they're right.”
“I love a full flavored smoke and one day when I was feeling like trying something besides my La Gloria Cubana Series R #6 maduro...my local Cigar shop owner turned me on to the Joya de Nicaragua Antano 1970. He told me to make certain that I eat before I smoke. He was right. For the size it was a real @ss kicker. Smooth, flavorful, and the type of smoke that lets you know that you had a smoke. I highly recommend this stick, unless you are the weak of heart...and stomach! Antano packs a punch!”
“I've become a fan of full-bodied cigars (i.e. La Flor Dominica Double Legera, La Gloria Series R and Comacho Corojo), but the Joyo De Nicaragua Antano 1970 is at the top of my list. The flavor is fantastic and the price is usually right! This is the type of cigar you'd be proud to share with a fellow aficianado who appreciates a strong, full-flavored stick. II cannot think of a cigar that I've enjoyed more then the Gran Consul, though I'm always looking.
“Man, this has got to be the heaviest smoke (Joya de Nicaragua Antano 1970) I've ever had. If you're looking for full bodied, your search is over.”
“The above posts are right, the Antano packs a wallop! The bigger the ring size, the bigger your meal beforehand ought to be. The Gran Consul takes the prize! The Belicoso is also a big hitter and even the "little" consul is a heavyweight puncher! If by some chance you get interrupted and one of these goes out, be very very careful when you re-light it cause it is almost unsmokeable. And I smoke one everyday when CI has them in stock! I've smoked alot of strong cigars, but this guy is the best I've smoked when it comes to satisfying my 'muscle cigar' cravings! Great, great, cigar!”
“I think all true cigar smokers are looking for a cigar that is the hidden gem, one that compares to or out performs those high priced sticks. This is one (Joya de Nicaragua Antaño 1970). Note: When you light one up... Have a seat, these suckers are pretty strong.”
“I'm a true fan of the Joya de Nicaragua Gran Consul. This cigar is truly wonderful. It tastes great and leaves no harsh aftertaste. The only problem I have with this cigar is that sometimes the draw isn't so smooth. Overall, one of the best I've ever smoked.”
“Not for for the nicotine non-adapted (Joya de Nicaragua Antano 1970). This thing is a stomach turner if you are not used to smoking full cigars or pack +/day on cigs. Probably one of strongest drop your stomach head spinners out there. If your 12 yr old son decides to sneak one of these from your stash, he will probably be sure to become smoking adverse. Might help with his insurance rates when he gets older but what good is money if he cant enjoy a good cigar?”
“Smoked the Robusto Grande. Beautiful looking cigar. Strong smell of raisins on the prelight. Easy draw with lots of smoke. Resting smoke was quite strong and pungent. Smooth yet definitely full bodied. No problem retrohaling. Given the strong raising smell, I was surprised there were not stronger fruit notes as with the JDN Celebracion.”
“This is one of my top picks for full flavored, well balanced, and very consistant cigars. Smooth and rich smoking experience. Potent...yes, but the well rounded flavor of the Nicaraguan leaf and Dr. Alejandro Maritinez Cuenca's attention to a well rolled cigar make this a winner all the way around! I keep plenty on hand because they are sooooooo worth it.”
“What a fantastic cigar! I'm on the hunt for 5 great cigars... I've found one. Strong but not too strong, very flavorful and fantastic to look at. The Gran Consul burned slow and cool and will be on my smoke list for years to come.”
“What a flavorful, intoxicating, yet deceitful beauty this Joya de Nicaragua Antano 1970 is. You will simply fall in love with her; right before she knocks you on your ass. You must try this one; but beware.”
“Wow. Looking for a full bodied flavorful cigar. This is it. Great draw, even burn. Joya de Nicaragua Antano 1970 is just that, a jewel. Enjoy!”
“First off...dont let the reviews scare you too much...this cigar is definatly full bodied but it is NOT harsh (Joya de Nicaragua Antaño 1970). Full of flavor and has a wonderful complex taste too. the aftertase is almost like carmel. Do yourself a favor, get a big ring size, sit down and enjoy this one! a must try.”
“I did not find alot of bells and whistles with this cigar (Joya de Nicaragua Antaño 1970). What I did find was 100% pure nicaraguan goodness. You get a medium to full bodied cigar that is woodsy with just a hint of leather through the nose. It has an awesome draw with thick clouds of light grey smoke right off the bat. It is a wonderful after dinner smoke. I just came inside from smoking my first one. The ash held on for a full 2 inches before dropping off. Half way in it just gets better with more prominate wood and toast flavor that coats your palet without killing it. You can be sure that I will be ordering a full box ASAP. Thank you CI for your outstanding quality of cigars at prices that most anybody can afford.”
“I've had a few of these sitting in my humidor for some time and never tried one. One afternoon I was craving a quick smoke because I didn't have a lot of time. I spotted the little Joya Consul and assumed that would satisfy my 'need'. WOW!! This thing is POTENT!! One of the strongest I've ever had, but oh so tasty!! If you are not used to this kind of punch, as mentioned in another review, eat something first, have a seat, light up, and prepare to stay in your chair for a bit! (can't even imagine the power of the bigger ring sizes!)”
“I am a dyed in the wool fan of CT shade wrapped cigars, especially 5 Vegas Gold. But sometimes I crave something with a little "tooth" to it and Joya de Nicaragua Antano is the stick that beckons me. Power and flavor expertly matched makes this the perfect afternoon or evening cigar.”
“I smoked a 6 x 54 belicoso shape (Joya de Nicaragua Antaño 1970). It was strong but certainly not harsh. The draw was somewhat tight and the burn quite even. There's plenty of flavour. This cigar is, in my opinion, best smoked after a fairly heavy meal and smoked very slowly.”
“I so much enjoy relaxing in my backyard with a glass of Merlot and a Joye de Nicaragua robusto. It's just one of life's little pleasures.”
“*** Just had a JdN 1970 Antano late this afternoon with a nice stout and brown ale ... I was preparing myself for a kick in the gut (from the known strength) ... yet it was so smooth, rich and had a touch of sweetness that made it even more palatable ... can't say how good it was ... funny thing is I can't remember if it had a tapered tip (belicoso) or round but it was very thick and short (Gran Consul or Robusto) ... it was gifted to me and had a decent period of time in the humi. Great cigar. (I've really enjoyed the Consul with a strong cup of *bucks coffee.)”
“After the buzz late summer last year about the Nicauguan's getting a bumper crop of leaf that didnt' taste like the blood of thousand Sandanista's... I was prompted to try both the Celebracion and the Antano... truly worthy of the praise and adulation. This a fragrant beauty, with punch -- I'd call it the velvet south paw. Nice. As you draw down on it, it switches up a bit to a smoothness not typically associated with Nic' tabacco. This was entered into my staple stash... a lovely smoke, truly.
My rate this stick: 88”
“I started smoking the Joya de Nic Antano while deployed to Iraq for OIF. Of all the cigars smoked over there during the course of a year...and we smoked tons, from just about every country...the JdN Antano is still by far the best smoke! Very full bodied, loaded with flavor, smooth with a peppery kick. I cannot say enough about the flavor...it was the best thing we had over there! My humidors are NEVER without an ample supply.”
“I am one of those people who prefer a fuller bodied cigar. I have tried many different brands. I received 2 of them (Joya de Nicaragua Antano 1970) in a 90 rated sampler pack. I liked them so much that they were my favorite cigar in that pack. I immediately went and bought more.This one certainly packs a punch and is the best tasting full body cigar i have had. It is the best tasting cigar on the market and is my new favorite.”
“don't know why' but the one I sampled just wasn't as strong as the reviews have all warned of (Joya de Nicaragua Antaño 1970). Love it though! Keeps my tongue smackin' the top of my mouth trying to figure out all those flavors. I actually found it very smooth and far from strong. Great draw, burn and ash...excellent 45 min of my life.
“Just got back from work. I lit a Joya de Nicaragua Antano and opened a of bottle of ale. After a few minutes things were back to where they should be. I've smoked some great cigars but this cigar is, for me, what a cigar should be. If I ever order anything else please remind your great customer service staff to disregard the order and send me another box of Joya de Nicaragua Antano.
“im bewildered at how many people say this is a strong cigar, yes it is full flavored, but this is one of the best balanced cigars ive had, robust coffee and earth , with black pepper on the tongue, smooth . dont be scared of this, camacho corojo and patel edge are much more powerful. but i have to admit i think these are more complex and absolutly delicious. will be smoking more of these.”
“The wrapper was red and smelled very sweet. This was nice suprise since this blend is full bodied. The cold draw was really tight, but still gave off the sweet sugary smell. The cigar bled a bit of the red color onto my lips and fingers. I didn't mind since the cigar was well constructed. The cigar was hard as a rock and had very little give. I don't know why but I really liked the way it felt in my hand. It felt like a Mac Truck between my fingers. The start was medium with some leather and spice. The cigar was tough to get going, but it boomed a ton of nice smoke. Until half way in I wasn't super impressed with the cigar. The cigar changed mid way through into some special. It moved into a complex floral and spicy mix which is something I have never experienced. This Joya was super slow burning and allowed me to enjoy every note. The spice increased all the way until the nub. The end was very leathery and pleasant. The smoke smelled like a dream. The cigar started to get a little hot towards the end but the cigar had smoked so long I didn't mind at all. I don't believe the cigar was full bodied or a muscle cigar, but it was super tasty and had be wanting more. I am glad I have 9 more and will smoke every last one to the nub.”
“One of the best cigars I've ever had. Better than a Cuban Hoyo de Monterey and as good as a Cuban Cohiba. Out of approximately 5 boxes of theses cigars, I've not had one bad one, very consistent in flavor and strength from stick to stick. If you like full bodied cigars with a oaky, leathery flavor and one that is very peppery, you must try these. But, be warned, they are addictive.”
“This cigar,( Joya de Nicaragua Antano 1970) , is a delicious, sweet, full bodied stogie! It is going to replace my standard Gurkha Symphony as my cigar of choice.”
“I finally got to enjoy my first Joya 1970 today.
This has to be the best cigar he has blended and produced. I allowed mine to sit and marinate for a bit, A very medium to full bodied smooth and flavorful cigar, with hints of spice leather and earthyness, just the right amount all around.
Excellent clouds of smoke and very aromatic.
This is a cigar that some to many seem to make out to be very strong but it really is not, if you allow it to sit in the proper condition, in a well maintained humidor. This is a cigar you want to be patient with and allow to sit for a while.
One that is worth every dollar.”
“A great deceptive cigar all around, this stick will fill your stomach and give a nice buzz kick in the head if you're constantly pulling on it, and that's what you'll be tempted to do when you're getting a constant smooth foray of pepper, earth, and cinnamon swirling on the finish. Good value and solid contruction with no burn issues. For me it's not an everyday cigar, but full body enthusiast will be in for a treat. Tends to feel dry on the finish, I recommend some type of libation or even club soda to compensate.”
“Absolutely none better. "Muscle Cigar" doesn't even come close to describing the great flavor and smoothness. It is no-nonsense yet not overpowering by any means. Just a completely delightful cigar in all sizes. Rocky and Gurkha can put together some incredible fancy schmancy blends and many are quite wonderful, but I always come back to old reliable Antano 1970.”
“I bought two boxes of these years ago. They age gracefully. These are one of the best top drawer cigars that has ever been formulated and made. You can take it to the bank with your fiat money.”
“I had these years ago (about 20) and recently bought some. They are still the same today as then; AWESOME!!”
“I recently had the machito, covered by brilliantly astounding bloom all over the cigar. I was blown away by the intensity, complexity and balance. While full-bodied to say the least, it was a mind-blowingly amazing experience that was overwhelming but in a thoroughly good way. Very similar to the first time I smoked a Liga Privada Unico Dirty Rat, but this cigar is easier to find and much cheaper.”
“This stick is incredible,(Joya de Nicaragua Antaño 1970) and I will not say for the price. The price of this cigar is irrelevant. You need not try to find the flavors in this cigar , trust me they will find you. Eat up before you smoke up and drink a stiff one.”
“I had a 5-pack of the Joya de Nicaragua Antano 1970 Gran Consul. I bought this cigar because I was looking for something with a lot of strength. Being a cigar novice, I was expecting to be floored by these. Oddly enough, I didn't find them to be as strong as everyone touted. Despite this mild disappointment, they are quite enjoyable. Beautifully constructed & very solid. Consistent slow & even burn. Despite the Consul's shorter length, it lasted anywhere from 1.5 to 2 hours. It's quite a treat for anyone who enjoys a full-bodied cigar with luscious amounts of smoke.”
“This is not a cigar to smoke before bedtime. This is Cuban Coffee strong in the lady nicotene area. I remember my Dad smoking these. Did I mention it's not just potent but a rich and tasty smoke? This is my 2 pm cigar. Screw tea time, have one of these and skip the coffee. A wonderful cigar!”
“I'm back to reconfirm. This is a full bodied, but incredibly smooth smoke, and from the many I've had, quite consistent. This offering puts many other full bodied smokes to shame. No bitter bite, but you sure know that you are smoking a full bodied delight! And gobs of smoke per puff. This remains a fave of mine. May have to now buy a box and stop the piecemeal purchases!”
“I've been told that these will knock your socks off. Not seeing it or feeling it. They do produce a dense and flavorful smoke, like having a double strength coffee or a heavy hot chocolate drink. But the power sure seems to be in balance with the powerful taste. I come and go on cigar strength. Sometimes I like a lightweight toasty smoke (say a Cu Avana), other times? Let 'er rip! This one rips quite satisfyingly! Have had a few. Even burn, good, ample smoke, as in volume, but not as generous as some I've smoked. This is a go to when I want rich, hearty, and dense flavor. I always keep a few on hand.”
“This is a reincarnation of the original JdN that I began smoking at the cigar shop back in the late 70’s, before the Nicaragua rebellion interrupted things in the early 80’s. The tobacconist recommended these to me back then (as well as the original Honduran Punch and Hoyo de Monterey) as I began to want a more full bodied smoke. It is true what the other reviews have stated… if you enjoyed the originals, these are every bit as good. What’s even better, they make larger vitolas now than they did back then so if you enjoy a large ring, take advantage and smoke both the Gran Perfecto and Magnum 660. I smoked both and had no issue with the draw or the burn and the flavor was full bodied, but not as full bodied as I remembered. Or maybe it is that I have smoked so many great full bodied complex cigars being blended today that I personally enjoy more. All in all, this cigar provides a very pleasant smoking experience and these cigars will not disappoint if you enjoy a good traditional full bodied smoke.”
“This is a reincarnation of the original JDN that I began smoking at the cigar shop back in the late 70’s, before the Sandinista rebels interrupted things in the 80’s. The tobacconist recommended these to me back then (as well as the original Honduran Punch and HDM) as I began to want a more full bodied smoke. It is true what the other reviews have stated… if you had the originals, these are every bit as good. What’s even better, they make larger vitolas now than they did back then so if you enjoy a large ring, take advantage and smoke both the Gran Perfecto and Magnum 660. I smoked both and had no issue with the draw or the burn and the flavor was full bodied, but not as full bodied as I remembered. Or maybe it is that i have smoked so many great full bodied complex cigars being blended today that I personally enjoy more. All in all, this cigar provides a very pleasant smoking experience and these cigars will not disappoint if you enjoy a good traditional full bodied smoke.”
“My absolute favorite. These cigars dont have the best appearance, with their rumpled wrappers and sometimes edgy veins, but they definitely take my mind off of....everything. Friends of mine have described the flavor as "dirt", "old, bad licorice", and "yuck", but what do they know? They want Macanudo, they can have it. Shame they aren't a little cheaper or I'd order more of them from CI.”
“A friend recently gifted me with a few cigars and included was a Joya de Nicaragua Antano 1970. Little did I realize how good a friend the guy is! I do not normally buy "full-strength" cigars, but this one has me re-thinking my position about that. I think it must be that I am beginning to tell the difference between "full-strength" and "full-bodied" or "full-flavored". The construction of the particular vitola I selected was perfect...a leather-colored, flawless wrapper. When lit, it imparted a peppery sensation on my lips and tongue that lasted for a few minutes. The cigar then evolved into one that carried a subtly changing flavor as time passed. It finished nicely, leaving a pleasant flavor on my palate for about a half-hour after I finished. I smoked it down to about 1 1/2 inches before I had to give up. If you are considering a move to a more full-flavored cigar, this one might be the one to try. Don't be deceived. There is nothing "mild" about it.”
“This cigar doesn't have to take back seat to any brand including Cubans. The construction is a work of art, with a flavor that should please any palate. Buy a 5 pack and prove me wrong.”
“Back in the day, son... Joya de Nicaragua Antano 1970 was my go to smoke. From 2002 to 2004, I probably smoked 30 boxes, conservatively. CI's deal made my revisit an old friend, and I'm glad I did. The Antano 1970, is everything I remembered. As soon as I opened the box, it filled the room with the aroma of strong, moist tobacco. Everyone I've smoked so far has performed perfectly. Lots of heavy cayenne style spice, leather and meaty flavors. I also forgot just how slow these bad boys burn, the Robusto Grande (5.5 x 52) provided me with 90 minutes - 2 hours of smoking pleasure. Also, if you're having congestion problems, just retrohale these bad boys and get cleared up quick.”
“One of the best cigars I have ever smoked. Always looking forward to smoking a JOYA.”
“After being a cigar smoker for about a year I was gifted a 3 pack of Consuls. After reading about how strong these were I was nervous to try 1. I just finished my first of what will be many of this perfect cigar. I might have just found my personal favorite... Perfect construction, taste, feel and clouds of beautiful smoke. I won't say I tasted pepper or wood or leather because I never have in any cigar I did however taste a delicous, quality cigar that made me relax and wanna try the rest of the Joya line. To anyone reading these reviews DON'T be afraid, this is NOT a harsh overpowering cigar, it is an enjoyable tasty stick that has me nervous that I only have 2 left!”
“10:30 a.m. my first Gran Consul with a diet Coke in Fife, WA last year was round 1 with the JdN Antano 1970. Just loved the construction, burn, appearance and the flavor profile just blew me away. A cigar smokers smoke if you favor full bodied Nicaragua puros, which I do. But a.m. was not a good idea. I ate an early lunch to ease the effect of the nicotine from this smoke. I simply couldn't get the memory of the flavors off my mind. Yesterday I opened the second box of this amazing smoke, it has become a staple in the cabinet. The Consul is a great smoke and burns 45 minutes to an hour and has yet to hit me as hard as the first time around. But then I haven't had another one of these before lunch. Live, learn and love this outstanding cigar!”
“Bam! It sums up in a word what Antano 1970 brings to the party. JdN's muscle cigar is a full bodied/full flavored treat for the senses. You will feel this one in your gut & head, but not in a bad way. To me it is the ultimate example of what they mean when they say "Cubanesque" . Not for the faint of heart or those who prefer a mild blend. Along with Camacho's Corojo, Joya de Nicaragua's Antano 1970 is the pinnacle of robust full bodied vitolas. Well worth trying & a staple in my humidors.”
“The top fuel dragster of cigars, no joke. The Antano 1970 is a brute dressed up in a tuxedo. Reddish brown in color and fiery in nature. Instantly distinguishable aroma- smells like no other cigar, very full bodied and interesting, making each puff an event. If you like a ton of spicy chewy goodness, nothing can beat this cigar.”
“I smoked this cigar and wow this is very cool and very smooth.”
“Bought these as a gift for a friend who smokes the Joya de Nicaragua Antano 1970 Big Bull (Gordo) exclusively. He loves the full-bodied, earthy, and robust flavor of these beautiful cigars. And the smell is unique; I think they smell great, but the scent might overpower someone who isn't used to such a strong, powerful cigar. Each one looks like a work of art. These cigars are simply gorgeous. Honestly, they're some of the most beautiful cigars I've ever seen. You can see the care and pride rolled into each one by obviously skilled hands.
The immediate joy and pleasure he had after receiving these beauties AND the reward I received for buying them for him made them worth every red cent! I'll definitely be back to CI to buy more!”
“Bought this when I was into that spicy, leathery, twangy zip of Nicaraguan tobacco, and put it in the humi for 6+ months. I guess my palate has changed over that time. I didnt enjoy this at all. I like full-bodied cigars, but this was over the top and not enjoyable in the least for me. No side effects, I just didnt get the flavors I now enjoy from a cigar. I was really looking forward to this for some time, but it just didnt do it for me. Also, draw was significantly tight from start to finish. Not saying it was bad, just doesnt fit my flavor profile.”
“just had my first Joya de Nicaragua and let me just say it wont be my last. this a FULL BODY smoke it packs a punch if you like the muscle cigars give these a crack”
“I couldn't agree with EF from Clinton CT more. This is an absolute must try. In my opinion, it is a true full bodied cigar that starts out with some spice but becomes refined within the first third. The flavours that developed appeared to me as creamy, smooth with a caramel like finish. Just awesome and one of my new favourites. I picked up a 5-pack of the Robustos and couldn't be happier.”
“Specifically the Consul size. A 4.5" X 52rg spark plug of a smoke. Full bodied/full flavored, Antano takes it to the next level. Among the many contenders for Heavyweight Champion, Antano holds it own & more. With so many new blends arriving on scene that boast of strength & power, notice that all of them are striving to achieve what Joya de Nicaragua has mastered since 1970. That is, develop one of the strongest blends, market it well, & maintain those qualities for over 40 years. All this while facing political ruin, governmental interference & challenges from nearly every cigar manufacturer in the world. JDN is back! I couldn't be happier. Antano is a top 5 blend, in my book. My 1st choice for a truly full bodied/full flavored experience.... Antano's hype can be believed. Try one & see if you don't agree.... I can't recommend Antano highly enough. Considering the cost, always less than 5 bones, but rarely found on discount, my rating of 93/100, is not 94 or 95, only because I often find similarly great full bodied cigars on discount, sometimes for 2 clams or less per vitola....”
“There are lots of new blends springing up with a real lean toward full bodied/full flavored muscle. A few of them are darn good. But in the end, they are all trying to accomplish something that Joya de Nicaragua got done 50 years ago, when they released that country's very 1st blend for mass consumption. Antano. Classic! They did it right, too. Cubanesque muscle to the umphteenth degree. The untied, unbeaten, undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the World! I love the little Consul. A true rothschilde, in the Cuban tradition.... Tastes the same now, as the 1st one I ever had. After what they have been through, it's a minor miracle. These little spark plugs will take your breath away, if you aren't ready for a sensory assault, right from the start. Even today, Antano 1970 is more Cuban than the Cubans. Well worth the modest asking price & unchallenged, in my mind, as the pinnacle in full bodied/full flavored cigars. Not for the faint of heart, but guaranteed to be a regular in every fullheads humidor. 95/100”
“YES! Finally a cigar that can keep pace with my dark beer. Just a great tasting cigar, and I do mean taste. Glad I ordered a box of the Gran Consul 4.7x60. No messing around to get right to the best part of the cigar. Beautiful to look at, nice solid feel, and a pure pleasure to smoke. It's now one of my top five favorites.”
“Great cigar and one of Ron Perlman's favorites. Keeping these regularly stocked in my humi for sure.”
“I like my whisky from Islay and my cigars from Nicaragua. I like other things, too, but, in general, not really into subtle nuances. The Antano 1970 is my benchmark cigar, it's what a cigar is. I think I actually like the Dark Corojos a little better, and the Fuerte Serie B is awfully good, too. The thing about JdN in general: when you are smoking one, there's never any doubt you're smoking a cigar. I like that.”
“Awesome Smoke! Love the big flavor and the old school tradition. This is one fine cigar. Enjoyed the Big Bull all the way down to the nub and a couple of hours afterwards. NIIICEE!
“A very nice cigar with floral hints and smooth in flavor. Nice!”
“Beautiful, weighty in the hand, and a wonderful smell is what you notice before you light it, then it gets serious. Thick, oily smoke with loads of full long-lasting flavor that burns true, and cool to the nub. If you are an once in a while smoker, be careful; it'll ring your bell.”
“To say this is a good cigar, just doesn't do it justice. In fact. I'm not sure I have the vocabulary to express how great of a cigar this is. This is a smoke that can go head to head with one from Cuba, and doesn't have to take back seat to any brand. Even Davidoff wishes they could make a smoke as good as this one, and not ask more that $300.00 dollars a box. I'm not good at giving all these different flavors that others come up with, but I can tell you this. If you want a full body cigar that is so smooth in taste, this is a must try cigar. In addition, it has quality construction, great draw, even burn, and is made in a way that you may not even notice how full body it is. Yes they are high in price, but if anyone has a right to charge what these cost, Joya de Nicaragua Antano 1970 does. A smoke that is worth saving some money in order to purchase a box. Just try a 5 pack and see if you don't agree with my review.”